Choose the baby to side with the slave and don't to side with the raiders. And like 1KingOfGames said you'll wanna kill the mother first since she has a good gun, though if your a high level that gun could barely hurt you. User Info: jackwinz1. If you want to side with the slaves, take the baby. If you want to side with the raiders, don't. If you pick it up all the raiders instantly become hostile. Nothing long lasting, just picking sides really. User Info: wKnNarrator. Its very critical it decides which side you are going to be on..
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They damn well can work. If you think otherwise, some blue coverall muscled old men are going to beat you to death with their walkers. Risewild wrote: Ashur doesn't like using slaves, and also doesn't like the word "slave". He is only using them because it is the only way to build a future for The Pitt.
He uses slaves because no one else would want to work in The Pitt because of all the radiation sickness. His plan is to build a industrial community that will benefit mankind for the future. He says that once the cure is found using his daughter Marie to do it , he won't need to force people to work anymore and will free all the slaves.
After that he will continue using the industrial complex in The Pitt to pave the road for the benefit of mankind. A community that will be fair for everyone, leader and workers where everyone will be prosperous and work on their own free will. It will be a prosperous place that can make use of the pre-war machinery to help mankind's future. Basically, Ashur's doing a bad thing now to lead to a good thing for everyone.
Exactly like "the end justifies the means". He's not proud of it, he doesn't even like it, but he's doing it to make the wasteland a better place for everyone. Now Wernher says he wants to save the slaves, but what he does and says shows that he actually just want to sit in Ashur's throne.
He doesn't mind killing an innocent baby if that makes that ascension to power faster. After we depose Ashur and Wernher takes control, everyone is still a slave and working exactly the same as when they were under Ashur's rule. No one is free, no one leaves The Pitt, nothing changes.
Basically, Wernher's just a power hungry bastard that makes a revolt just so he can control The Pitt. If you should feel bad for taking one side or another is all up to you though. Risewild wrote: Other Forum Member wrote: Based on what? It's not easy keeping these people from tearing each other apart.
I don't know how Ashur did it. It'd go faster if they didn't keep fussing about not hurting the little squirt. Oh, it'll be fine. I can take care of extracting the full cure from it, and meanwhile the slaves can raise it as one of their own. But you know what? Fuck this city, and fuck the raiders, fuck the slaves, and fuck you too, fucker.
I'm gone. Yeah, but it's gonna take work to clean up after the riots. I can take care of the day-to-day stuff - you just reap the benefits, huh? Whatever you want, boss. I'll be whipping folks back into shape, and Midea's keeping an eye on the brat, so you can come and go as you like. Now that Ashur's gone, there's gonna be some changes around here, believe me. I assumed it was not a viable place to live anymore. Other Forum Member wrote: Someone needs to be in charge. And given that she says 'I don't know how Ashur did it' indicates that people were trying to tear each other apart before, so that doesn't indicate a worsening state of affairs.
Other Forum Member wrote: What else would he call them? The former slaves, the people, whatever people from Pittsburg are called or something along those lines? I guess that's worrying, but he strikes me more as laziness on their devs part than as a hint of what's 'really happening'. Other Forum Member wrote: The next block o' quotes start off with two similarly ambiguous statements as, unless I'm mistaken, those are said after you tell him that you're betraying him to work for Ashur. Seems like the sort of thing someone would say in that situation.
Other Forum Member wrote: Corporal punishment on the other hand is clearly indicated. I recall surviving in the Pitt is difficult so it's not like anyone who remains is going to have any easy time of things, and people are trying to kill each other. That they'd have to work their asses off under horrible conditions to survive just seems logical. So there are less terrible conclusions than 'everything is the same or worse' which are plausible. This is not to say that you're interpretation is wrong, it's just that there's only so much that we can definitively draw from what we see.
Oh, things are fine. Don't let any grumblers tell you differently! But it's a small price to pay for seeing the end of Ashur and his bastards, right? It's a resilient little spud!
Don't you worry about it. And after all this work, you're going to turn around and betray me? And if you really care, Midea said she's looking for toys for the brat. I guess if you find anything, you could bring them to her. Don't you worry about a thing. I've got everything under control! You just wait, we'll whip The Pitt back into shape! Fallout games. Classic games Fallout Fallout 2 Fallout Tactics.
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Register Don't have an account? Free Labor. View source. History Talk We've all got a past, and damn few of us have reason to be proud of it. Stage Status Description 1 Retrieve your gear. PC Playstation 3 Xbox If you enter Haven proper, triggering the dialogue between Krenshaw and Ashur during which you cannot interact with either , and return to the Entry Hall before talking to Ashur, he cannot be talked to or pickpocketed when you return and Krenshaw will never leave.
Ashur will instead continue looking at Krenshaw as though the now finished dialogue is going on, with his legs twitching. This means you cannot take the baby or hack the turret control computer. After attacking Ashur or Sandra you can kidnap the baby and the plot continues normally with the slaves' revolt.
Also, if you choose to side with Ashur and leave the dialogue after he tells you to kill Wernher, he will not interact with you anymore except to say "Find Wernher and put a stop to this" and "don't let me keep you".
Sandra will also not talk to you. You can not steal the baby now unless you kill Ashur and Sandra. If you leave Haven to go to Uptown the door is locked and says that it requires a key. You may not be able to leave unless you kidnap the baby. If you run into this bug try the following in the console: resetquest xx D and setstage xx D This will reset the quest.
If you are standing close enough to Ashur, he will approach you and initiate dialogue several seconds after Krenshaw leaves.
If you wait too long to allow Ashur to initiate conversation, Krenshaw will return. Ashur may or may not initiate dialogue at this point, and Krenshaw may disappear. PC Upon leaving Midea's house after discovering Wernher's location, if the quest 'Picking Up the Trail' is still active, it may automatically complete itself, and move on to the next quest in the base game's storyline. If you fight him he simply goes unconscious, then regains full health and attacks you again.
Instead run past him into Midea's quarters sometimes he'll follow you in though , wait and then go out again - by that time he should have killed all The Pitt bosses in the market and calmed down. When targeted in V. Bodies remain invisible until searched. Mostly occurs in The Mill when slave skins glitch and become invisible. After he attacks you, sometimes the game will lock up requiring you to restart the console.
He will then go hostile unless you have the Black Widow perk , and attack you. If you kill him, the quest will tell you to return to Ashur. The biggest issue appears to be if the player refuses to take the baby after speaking with Ashur.
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